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USA: "We don't go back to normal" - Michael Brown's father on son's death

2 04.06.2020
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SOT, Michael Brown Sr., Father of Michael Brown: "How do we stop this from happening again? That's just a conversation that we got to have. You know, these politicians, is people like, they have to put things in place for us. You know, we already deal with issues that we have already with between us. And when we show us having issues, nobody else going to give, give a care about our issues. They're going to keep doing what they're doing, because they feel that we don't care. So it's a circle, it's a circle of things that needs to be fixed. And it definitely has to start with up top."
SOT, Michael Brown Sr., Father of Michael Brown: "Our presence is everything. So definitely just showing the people that you know, and Mike isn't on no high horse - he's down here with us. Some people would all think, I don't even move around like this. So therefore by me even being here, me and brother Shahid, we even being here, it's just over the limit. You know, people [are] like man, they took time off they life to come down here and be with us. Even though I still struggle with what I struggle with, I'm down here struggling with the same situation with people that understand the situation that I'm struggling with. So it's almost like I could say lowkey therapy for me because I'm able to help somebody else and that helps build my strength back up."
SOT, Michael Brown Sr., Father of Michael Brown: "In the position that I am right now, yes, I have to help others. You know, with the best of my ability of what I have been through to get them to understand what's coming up next, what's going to happen in the near future. And what's going to be best thing, best tactic for all of this. Because you're going to have people coming at you all different types of ways to where you're not going to be able to consciously keep up because of the hurt and the pain that you're feeling. So a lot of the words that's going to be coming out of people's mouth like the old lady on Charlie Brown, "Wah wah wah" - you're not listening to none of that. You're not even hearing it because you got all this pain, this clutter in your brain. So definitely, you know, you need people that feel just like you. So you can hear it and understand, you know, how you can kind of get by. I can't tell you how to get back. Everybody's got to find their own path, but kind of get by, you know, with soft words and soft love, you know, to my people, you know so they to know and understand that I feel it. I feel the same vibration that you got in your chest too."
SOT, Michael Brown Sr., Father of Michael Brown: "I got a, I got a group called Chosen Fathers. It's all the fathers that's been affected by police terror or community, violence from all over the world."
SOT, Anthony Shahid, Activist from St. Louis: "I told them then and there, keep your hands up because they, they doing everything they can to kill us, and I thought, holding our hands up, don't shoot, hands up, don't shoot. And the news camera captured - the Channel Four news in the city of St. Louis - captured it the time it was and everything. And from that point on, it just it's been going on. Anytime you see a demonstration, including now, which the situation was happening with brother George, everybody around the world and every country is hopping on from Japan, with the umbrellas - 'Hands up, don't shoot'.'"
SOT, Michael Brown, Sr., Father of Michael Brown: "But when things happened with Mike Brown Jr. my life has changed. People did a lot of lying. A lot of people were there for the wrong reasons. We still haven't bounced back. We're still off course, you know. Still dealing with what had happened, and still dealing with things that are happening now up until this day, you know. People don't get that we don't go back to normal."
SCRIPT
Michael Brown Sr., father of teenager Michael Brown who was killed in Ferguson by police in 2014, sat down for an interview in a hotel room in Minneapolis on Wednesday, where he travelled to in order to join protesters and activists in the aftermath of George Floyd's death.
With him was Anthony Shahid, a local activist from St. Louis, Missouri, who fights against police brutality and for African American rights.
Brown spoke about his decision to join protests in Minneapolis and the importance of solidarity within the black community.
"How do we stop this from happening again? That's just a conversation that we got to have," he said.
"Our presence is everything," continued Brown, before adding "even though I still struggle with what I struggle with, I'm down here struggling with the same situation with people that understand the situation that I'm struggling with."
"So it's almost like I could say lowkey therapy for me because I'm able to help somebody else and that helps build my strength back up."
Shahid spoke about his contributions to the protest movements, including the familiar words "Hands up, don't shoot" that was prevalent during Ferguson protests and has become a defining slogan for the Black Lives Matter movement.
"I told them then and there, keep your hands up because they're doing everything they can to kill us, and I thought, holding our hands up, 'don't shoot, hands up, don't shoot'. And the news camera captured - the Channel Four news in the city of St. Louis - captured it the time it was and everything. And from that point on, it just it's been going on. Anytime you see a demonstration, including now, which the situation was happening with brother George, everybody around the world and every country is hopping on from Japan, with the umbrellas - 'Hands up, don't shoot'.'" he shared.
Brown concluded with words about the state of the movement in general and how the black community can overcome the long list of police killings that have drawn outrage and fuelled tensions with authorities.
"We still haven't bounced back. We're still off course, you know. Still dealing with what had happened, and still dealing with things that are happening now up until this day, you know. People don't get that we don't go back to normal," he said.
Eighteen-year-old Michael Brown was unarmed when he was shot dead August 9, 2014 by Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson. The shooting sparked unrest and nightly clashes with police in the local community, particularly following a decision by the St Louis County grand jury not to indict Wilson.
On Wednesday, Brown Sr. joined protesters at George Floyd's memorial in Minneapolis, where a minute of silence was observed in honour of Floyd who died in police custody.
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